12/29/06, 02:54 PM | #1 | |
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Sexism on Sailor Moon.
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Really really instering... she makes great points on the sexism. |
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12/29/06, 03:59 PM | #2 |
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RE: Sexism on Sailor Moon.
Wow. That did make some good points. I never really thought about it that way. I just always felt that Mamoru was a pointless and far underdeveloped character. But, I would most definitely agree that he was almost always inconsiderate of Usagi's feelings.
She's also right that most people don't think that Mamoru and Usagi from the anime should ever have been together. I'm one of them. Live action Mamoru and Usagi? All for it. Chris |
12/29/06, 11:20 PM | #3 |
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RE: Sexism on Sailor Moon.
That really does make me think about Usagi and Mamoru's relationship. I just assumed since she always thought he was cute, once he actually reciprocated the feelings, it explained her being tied to his waist all the time.
But I wasn't bothered by the girls being so into guys, they're only 15, it's a natural occurence. I mean, whenever they were jealous that Usagi was the only one with a boyfriend, it was purely due to Usagi rubbing it in their faces. All I know is the Outer Senshi were a great push back to female empowerment, going so far as to show you don't even need a man to raise a child or have a relationship with (hee-hee). That quartet was quite an independent one. |
12/30/06, 04:44 AM | #4 | ||
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RE: Sexism on Sailor Moon.
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I agree with the statement that he didn't seem to reciprocate or at least communicate his true feelings for Usagi as much as she did - if at all. Especially since he just shut her out of his life when he thought she was in danger instead of telling her. For crying out loud, they are warriors against evil - you'd think they'd entertain the thought of an enemy manipulating their dreams or something. And Darien never considered the fact that because Serena was Sailor Moon that she'd never get hurt or die, but simply because they were together it would be the death of her? What's up with that? Quote:
In some aspects I love the Outer Scouts. Setsuna (I refuse to call her Trista because 'Trista' was such a weak character) appealed to me when she spoke to Rini through the Luna ball when she ran away from home and had such a sweet sounding voice actress. That's about as far as that went as soon as she first got onto screen in the dub. Sailor Uranus had a good voice actress but her character was poorly developed, as was all of the Outer Scouts. Sailor Neptune was instantaneously a poor character because the voice actress was Serena's mom. Don't get me started on how the dub made their relationship worse by making them cousins. I really like the idea of Sailor Saturn, but with only seeing the dub so far, I don't have much to comment on "Sailor Saturn", per say. The Outer Scouts had great potential when they were introduced in S, but they were a complete let down with their standoffish and often callous attitudes and poorly, poorly developed characters. ~Sugar Baby |
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12/30/06, 05:12 AM | #5 |
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RE: Sexism on Sailor Moon.
Aw, come on SB. Don't you know how the dubbing censors mind's work? Cloverway seemed convinced that a better option than lesbians was incestuous lesbians. They had to make sure not to alienate the people in Arkansas, you know.
The whole R thing with Mamoru breaking up with Usagi bothered me, too. He didn't seem to be using that brain he was shown to possess in S. If anything, he put her in more danger during R by breaking up with her, since she was constantly distracted by the whole situation. I guess logic or common sense is as lacking in some animes as it is in real life. Chris |
12/30/06, 11:56 AM | #6 |
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RE: Sexism on Sailor Moon.
Guys as a Mass media Production major, I have to tell you... the lesbians thing wasn't Cloverway's fault. They have orders to follow from the FCC and Cartoon Network's Practices and standards deparment.
Sailor Saturn? The one that had the same voice as Serena's mom was Michelle(Neptune) Saturn voice was completly diferent. |
12/30/06, 12:17 PM | #7 |
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RE: Sexism on Sailor Moon.
Neo, it wasn't that they made them cousins due to their relationship in the original. It was that they left in most, if not all, of the romantic scenes between the two (the 2 minute hand-holding scene in S springs to mind). Made them seem more like incestuous lesbians than just lesbians.
I think we, or at least I do, understand the reasons why they changed that. The FCC has very strict guidelines on children shows. What can't be shown, or said, or even implied. However, I think in that regard they could have done a better job handling the whole thing. At least they could have removed the scenes that blatantly screamed "We're not cousins, we're lovers!" Chris |
12/31/06, 03:28 PM | #8 | |
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12/31/06, 03:38 PM | #9 | |
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