The gap between Zeo and TAPRM - your headcanon?

[ASpice92]

Do people still take Amit's word at face value?

We know at some point between Zeo's finale and T:APRM movie that Zedd and Rita gave up on villainy. We also know at some point that Serpentera ended up on the moon. Make of it what you will.

[johnboy3434]

Originally Posted by ASpice92

Do people still take Amit's word at face value?

When it's directly supported by the show and concerning an episode that he wrote himself? Of course we do. Why wouldn't we?

[blacklion400]

Originally Posted by johnboy3434

When it's directly supported by the show and concerning an episode that he wrote himself? Of course we do. Why wouldn't we?

Should we also take Tzachor at face value when he says that every season is part of its own universe?

[johnboy3434]

Originally Posted by DigificWriter

^ Why shouldn't we take Amit's word at face value? Because he killed any shreds of credibility he may have had by blindly endorsing Jonathan Tzachor's ridiculous viewpoint on Power Rangers continuity... in spite of said viewpoint being completely contradictory to what is actually established by the franchise's Canon.

What bearing does that have on his ability to clarify statements made by characters in "Forever Red", though? He wrote the episode. He understands it better than anyone possibly could (or at least he did at the time he wrote it). When his explanations don't run counter to anything previously presented in the show, what reason do we have to question them beyond "I don't like him"?

Originally Posted by blacklion400y

Should we also take Tzachor at face value when he says that every season is part of its own universe?

For one thing, Tzachor has never written a single episode of PR. Second, that statement would also have bearings on seasons he was not involved with, so that makes it immediately suspect without an in-show justification. On that note: Third, nothing in the show has ever explicitly said that each team might occupy its own universe (quite the opposite, in fact).

By contrast, FR explicitly says that Lord Zedd was defeated and Serpentera was left in ruins on the moon, an event that occurred offscreen. Amit, when questioned about it, simply clarified that this was a reference to the events of the "Scorpion Rain" fan hoax. Considering that he was actually involved in the hoax back in the late 90s, we have no reason to believe he was being untruthful when he said that it inspired the backstory. So, his claim contradicts nothing from the show, it's supported by his own personal history, and it regards an episode that he himself wrote without infringing on anyone else's creative space. There's no logical reason not to take that at face value.

[Ankh Primo]

Originally Posted by johnboy3434

When his explanations don't run counter to anything previously presented in the show, what reason do we have to question them beyond "I don't like him"?

I've learned that no one needs a reason beyond that one.

[Digificwriter]

^ Why shouldn't we take Amit's word at face value? Because he killed any shreds of credibility he may have had by blindly endorsing Jonathan Tzachor's ridiculous viewpoint on Power Rangers continuity... in spite of said viewpoint being completely contradictory to what is actually established by the franchise's Canon.

[NewWhiteTiger]

Amit saying he was referencing a fan fic he wrote years earlier doesn't mean the fan fic is in the same continuity as the actual series. Otherwise any fan fic writer on here could end up writing for power rangers, write a vague line and suddenly that dark story they wrote ten years earlier where half the former rangers died in the legend war could be canon, and that's just not how it works.

That being said, the turbo powers, however vague they are, do have clues to their origin. We know turbo technology was needed to get to Maligore's island. We know the turbo keys have the same properties as Lerigot's wand, the rangers put the finishing touches on the powers (or at least the zords) and we know the source to their power is housed on Eltar; which is something new because the rangers have only had power sources on them, being the power coins and the zeo sub crystals.

So as far as the turbo powers go we basically have a wizard did it for the explanation. Okay, so why not go back to Zeo after turbo powers were destroyed? Multiple theories for this one. Either the zeo crystal powers the turbo powers, the zeo powers were reclaimed offscreen by the former turbo rangers when they left, they were lost in the explosion, or the turbo rangers just didn't know about them and kind of assumed they lost all of their weapons, not just the turbo ones.

Now the one unanswered question that you can't just assume either way and have it lead to a viable answer is, why didn't Tommy use his former powers in dino thunder, at least before getting his own dino gem? One way or another he's stopped using them since forever red. I don't like the theory that the zeo powers could no longer be held by humans, mostly because in my personal headcanon the reason the gold ranger powers affected Jason the way they did was largely based off the fact that he didn't use a morpher, and the morphers are what kept the powers stable for the others. It's viable, just not the theory I want to believe. No, I personally think the powers were taken back to Eltar for the whole not escalating a battle thing, seeing as the Zeo's battle was now over and the wild force rangers ha the org situation down. having absolutely no powers is what I think leads Tommy to making the DT powers in the first place, just in case bad things happen and he can't get his old powers back. And when bad things happen in DT he just couldn't get in contact with Eltar before getting abducted at the end of the 3rd episode. He may have been in the process of getting in contact with Eltar but he was abducted literally the third episode, with the first two being a two parter. Before he had the chance he literally had a new power set all to himself.

[johnboy3434]

Originally Posted by NewWhiteTiger

Amit saying he was referencing a fan fic he wrote years earlier doesn't mean the fan fic is in the same continuity as the actual series. Otherwise any fan fic writer on here could end up writing for power rangers, write a vague line and suddenly that dark story they wrote ten years earlier where half the former rangers died in the legend war could be canon, and that's just not how it works.

Actually, that's pretty much how it works. When you become a writer for a show in an official capacity, and the higher-ups don't veto the concepts you put into your work, those concepts (if not the exact form of them embodied in the fan work) are canon until future writers overwrite them. Lord Zedd attacked the Earth between Zeo and Turbo. He was defeated and Serpentera crashed into the moon. That these irrefutably canonical events were directly based on a fan work is reason enough to give said fan work some level of credence in its other particulars, until such time (if any) that said events are depicted otherwise in an official work.

Your example is a strawman argument because it involves directly and blatantly contradicting what has been established in prior canon. Even if said fan did include a line with such an implication, that implication is invalid because what it implies is incapable of being true.

[ASpice92]

Originally Posted by DigificWriter

^ Why shouldn't we take Amit's word at face value? Because he killed any shreds of credibility he may have had by blindly endorsing Jonathan Tzachor's ridiculous viewpoint on Power Rangers continuity... in spite of said viewpoint being completely contradictory to what is actually established by the franchise's Canon.

And his Samurai proposal

And his Project hexagon proposal

Originally Posted by johnboy3434

Lord Zedd attacked the Earth between Zeo and Turbo. He was defeated and Serpentera crashed into the moon.

None of that was in the episode Forever Red. All we know is that Serpentera was left at the moon. For all we know Goldar was taking Scorpina on a date they ran out of gas and Seperentera crashed on the moon.

[Terror Rangers]

Originally Posted by ASpice92

None of that was in the episode Forever Red. All we know is that Serpentera was left at the moon. For all we know Goldar was taking Scorpina on a date they ran out of gas and Seperentera crashed on the moon.

Word of God. It's canon until proven otherwise in-show.