The RPM /Samurai Team up - Page 2

MattEmily · 12/08/11, 05:54 PM

That is the part that kind of surprises me about the teamup. That they ended up using footage from the 2 movies in it. Granted I don't know what was in the regular movie that they ended up using but personally I couldn't even tell at all.

Zabitan · 12/18/11, 05:57 PM

Just to chime in my 2 cents on the whole "Alternate universe" thing with RPM there's not just RPM but also Jonathan Tzachor saying he views the Disney seasons as non canon.

Plus unless they want to do an ass ton of editing, and original footage or just skip it altogther there's the issue of having pre Zyuranger Sentai teams in Gokaiger.

So maybe the whole "alternate universe" is just a safety net so that they can explain all the various past rangers showing up.

MattEmily · 12/18/11, 06:38 PM

True, it's been claimed Tzachor stated that however keep in mind he also didn't want them to put Ninja Storm through and including RPM on the website either. So hopefully Saban and his right-hand people won't allow Tzachor to put Ninja Storm-Jungle Fury in alternate dimensions.

Indeed, there is the issue of pre-Zyuranger teams in Gokaiger but keep in mind there's also Dairanger as well which we didn't get in terms of the Ranger suits except for Tommy's White Ranger powers. Plus there are other ways to deal with the pre-Zyuranger teams without pulling the alternate dimension or alternate timeline card.

After all every new team they usually act as if there was no other team before them. Taylor was active in Turtle Cove during the time Time Force was still fighting Ransik and his mutants yet they didn't know of each other until their teamup.
So basically they could say the pre-Zyuranger teams are just teams from other planets, galaxies or universes. The only issue they would have is Battle Fever J because it would kinda need to have an Earth-based excuse but you could just say it was once a secret agency team that had to retire and hide their powers once the government tried spying on them.

Also there is the option of not even using the pre-Zyu teams. There's really not a whole lot of editing to be done with those teams to begin with anyway. They would just need to cut out the footage and that's basically it. Granted filming new footage is something that they're capable of since we've seen evidence of it before but the question is, would they be willing to? Since the question they need to ask themselves is whether they want to use the money that they have in order to bring back previous actors or if they want to use it for more original footage.

PRangerX · 12/18/11, 08:59 PM

They will never be able to completely get rid of the Disney Seasons. Tzachor's supposed attempt to take them off the website failed. There is too much money to be made. I do fear that they will be contridicted with the Gokaiger adaption. But we will have to see.

MattEmily · 12/18/11, 09:10 PM

Yup, that is what I'm worried about but I'm hoping the higher-ups won't allow him to do a hacking of the other previous Disney teams.

Kamen Rider Decade · 12/19/11, 12:18 AM

DT proved Doug was absolutely clueless about his own PR history. There were so many inconsistencies the only way for it not to look bad is if they were trying to establish an alternate reality for the crap era under Disney.

That is just plain sad and made me lose what little respect I had for the guy after his comic book line in NS.

MattEmily · 12/19/11, 04:45 AM

What do you mean inconsistencies? I never caught anything that would be inconsistent in Dino Thunder. Just bad mistakes they made with "Legacy of Power" but that wasn't necessarily their fault, they just had to condense it.

Now with SPD and the whole "brutally injured thing due to the big Sword attack yet once they morph they're perfectly healthy thing" I'll give you.

Kamen Rider Decade · 12/19/11, 01:27 PM

From Tommy's video diary of his life as a Power Ranger:

Sword of Darkness called Power Sword, in proper Power Ranger history the Power Sword belongs to the Red Ranger as his personal weapon.
"Power Sword" was destroyed by Tommy with the other’s help, in proper PR history the Sword of Darkness was fueling the evil in Tommy and it was not destroyed by Tommy at all but by Jason or the entire team.
At one point he says the Green Ranger Power was only temporary, in proper PR history Rita was stealing the power, Tommy gave it to Jason so Rita couldn't get it, later Tommy took it back up but lacked enough power to keep it forever, Zordon had to fuel it himself, eventually Tommy used it up completely and ended the power's existence forever.
No mention of Katherine being under an evil spell
No mention of Vile or him turning back time
No mention of the Alien Rangers having come to Earth to save the Earth
No mention of the Zeo Crystal Quest
No mention of Trey
No mention of Phantom Ranger and Blue Senturian
He said the loss of the Command Center destruction means loss of Turbo powers, in proper PR history the invasion of Eltar disconnected the link between the Turbo Powers power source and the Turbo Ranger's morpher.
No mention of any Battlizers other than Leo’s
No mention of Scorpious
No mention of Magna Defender nor Mike who were essential in Terra Venture's escape from the Lost Galaxy.
No mention of Karone replacing the first Ranger to ever die, nor that dead Ranger’s resurrection
No mention of Ryan being evil at first
No mention of Alex, nor his death and resurrection
No mention of Merrick being the evil Zen-Aku first
No mention of Forever Red, Haley or the other DT Rangers said the video diary was about Tommy's life as a Power Ranger yet it neglects to mention the biggest battle he was ever in and orchestrated.
He specifically states that he had no Ranger powers at the time in direct contradiction to Forever Red which proved he could still morph into Zeo Red Ranger.

MattEmily · 12/19/11, 03:10 PM

You do have a point. Granted they make mistakes with names at times and remember Tommy is narrating the video diary and he does have a bad memory.

Also the Sword of Darkness was destroyed by Jason but it's not the first time they've called it a Power Sword. I recall 1 other instance of them doing such a thing even when the writers should have known better.

Yeah, the Green Ranger powers being temporary, I'll give you that but keep in mind it was only 1 episode and they had to condense it. Doesn't mean it's inconsistent. It just means they avoided some things. Granted the temporary Green Ranger powers is an inconsistent thing so I'll give you that one.

Yes, the conquering of Eltar definitely meant the Turbo Rangers lost their powers but it's possible Tommy wasn't aware of the attack being at the same time as Divatox's attack on the Power Chamber.

You have a point with Scorpius and the Magna Defender though.
You do have a point with Karone as well as the death of Karone.
You have a point with Merrick and Zen-Aku.

Yes, it was a video about Tommy's life as a Power Ranger but that doesn't mean removing "Forever Red" is inconsistent. None of the teamups were mentioned. It's likely why they avoided the whole Kendrix/Karone stuff. They wanted to keep it as simple as possible.

It doesn't mean not mentioning something is inconsistent. It just means they wanted to keep it as simple as possible.

And yes, he said he had no powers at the "present time." That doesn't mean it's inconsistent. We don't even know if he still had his Zeo powers or not. Sure, he used them in "Forever Red" but that was "Forever Red."

Mnikolic · 12/19/11, 07:03 PM

Tommy's video diary was inconsistent because Dino Thunder was the second season produced by Ranger Productions Limited and Disney didn't bother to check out the series properly so they could put together a 100 % correct video diary. Also, because the MMPR Productions crew was finally 100 % fired after the production of Wild Force had been completed, the change of continent and the new New Zealand crew NOT being at the same level as the Saban one have contributed to lower tech quality of the series, not to mention the writing and filming. Of course it all got better by the time Dino Thunder had ended/SPD had begun. The new crew had some catching up to do to get into the game and they also needed to get some experience when it came to do a Power Rangers show.

Watch Linkara's video review of Ninja Storm. Yes, Tommy has a bad memory, even his actor, JDF may have bad memory, but if the script for the damn anniversarry episode would be done like it should, Tommy would fill us in on the PR history correctly and he wouldn't stop listing individual Rangers after Lost Galaxy and Cole would get his screen time in the diary and not just Gao Red.

For the diary inconsistencies, the production crew is to blame. They didn't do their homework for the 500th episode.

To quote Linkara:

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HOW TO YOU MESS UP THE AUDIO FROM THE OLD EPISODES!?!?!?!

12/08/11, 05:54 PM	#11
MattEmily Administrator Join Date: 01/12/11 Posts: 5,877	Re: The RPM /Samurai Team up That is the part that kind of surprises me about the teamup. That they ended up using footage from the 2 movies in it. Granted I don't know what was in the regular movie that they ended up using but personally I couldn't even tell at all.

12/18/11, 05:57 PM	#12
Zabitan Administrator Join Date: 01/06/11 Location: Eureka California Posts: 1,778	Re: The RPM /Samurai Team up Just to chime in my 2 cents on the whole "Alternate universe" thing with RPM there's not just RPM but also Jonathan Tzachor saying he views the Disney seasons as non canon. Plus unless they want to do an ass ton of editing, and original footage or just skip it altogther there's the issue of having pre Zyuranger Sentai teams in Gokaiger. So maybe the whole "alternate universe" is just a safety net so that they can explain all the various past rangers showing up.

12/18/11, 06:38 PM	#13
MattEmily Administrator Join Date: 01/12/11 Posts: 5,877	Re: The RPM /Samurai Team up True, it's been claimed Tzachor stated that however keep in mind he also didn't want them to put Ninja Storm through and including RPM on the website either. So hopefully Saban and his right-hand people won't allow Tzachor to put Ninja Storm-Jungle Fury in alternate dimensions. Indeed, there is the issue of pre-Zyuranger teams in Gokaiger but keep in mind there's also Dairanger as well which we didn't get in terms of the Ranger suits except for Tommy's White Ranger powers. Plus there are other ways to deal with the pre-Zyuranger teams without pulling the alternate dimension or alternate timeline card. After all every new team they usually act as if there was no other team before them. Taylor was active in Turtle Cove during the time Time Force was still fighting Ransik and his mutants yet they didn't know of each other until their teamup. So basically they could say the pre-Zyuranger teams are just teams from other planets, galaxies or universes. The only issue they would have is Battle Fever J because it would kinda need to have an Earth-based excuse but you could just say it was once a secret agency team that had to retire and hide their powers once the government tried spying on them. Also there is the option of not even using the pre-Zyu teams. There's really not a whole lot of editing to be done with those teams to begin with anyway. They would just need to cut out the footage and that's basically it. Granted filming new footage is something that they're capable of since we've seen evidence of it before but the question is, would they be willing to? Since the question they need to ask themselves is whether they want to use the money that they have in order to bring back previous actors or if they want to use it for more original footage. Last edited by MattEmily; 12/18/11 at 08:59 PM.

12/18/11, 08:59 PM	#14
PRangerX Administrator Join Date: 12/04/00 Posts: 4,004	Re: The RPM /Samurai Team up They will never be able to completely get rid of the Disney Seasons. Tzachor's supposed attempt to take them off the website failed. There is too much money to be made. I do fear that they will be contridicted with the Gokaiger adaption. But we will have to see.

12/18/11, 09:10 PM	#15
MattEmily Administrator Join Date: 01/12/11 Posts: 5,877	Re: The RPM /Samurai Team up Yup, that is what I'm worried about but I'm hoping the higher-ups won't allow him to do a hacking of the other previous Disney teams.

12/19/11, 12:18 AM	#16
Kamen Rider Decade Mentor Join Date: 01/14/08 Posts: 1,370	Re: The RPM /Samurai Team up DT proved Doug was absolutely clueless about his own PR history. There were so many inconsistencies the only way for it not to look bad is if they were trying to establish an alternate reality for the crap era under Disney. That is just plain sad and made me lose what little respect I had for the guy after his comic book line in NS.

12/19/11, 04:45 AM	#17
MattEmily Administrator Join Date: 01/12/11 Posts: 5,877	Re: The RPM /Samurai Team up What do you mean inconsistencies? I never caught anything that would be inconsistent in Dino Thunder. Just bad mistakes they made with "Legacy of Power" but that wasn't necessarily their fault, they just had to condense it. Now with SPD and the whole "brutally injured thing due to the big Sword attack yet once they morph they're perfectly healthy thing" I'll give you.

12/19/11, 01:27 PM	#18
Kamen Rider Decade Mentor Join Date: 01/14/08 Posts: 1,370	Re: The RPM /Samurai Team up From Tommy's video diary of his life as a Power Ranger: Sword of Darkness called Power Sword, in proper Power Ranger history the Power Sword belongs to the Red Ranger as his personal weapon. "Power Sword" was destroyed by Tommy with the other’s help, in proper PR history the Sword of Darkness was fueling the evil in Tommy and it was not destroyed by Tommy at all but by Jason or the entire team. At one point he says the Green Ranger Power was only temporary, in proper PR history Rita was stealing the power, Tommy gave it to Jason so Rita couldn't get it, later Tommy took it back up but lacked enough power to keep it forever, Zordon had to fuel it himself, eventually Tommy used it up completely and ended the power's existence forever. No mention of Katherine being under an evil spell No mention of Vile or him turning back time No mention of the Alien Rangers having come to Earth to save the Earth No mention of the Zeo Crystal Quest No mention of Trey No mention of Phantom Ranger and Blue Senturian He said the loss of the Command Center destruction means loss of Turbo powers, in proper PR history the invasion of Eltar disconnected the link between the Turbo Powers power source and the Turbo Ranger's morpher. No mention of any Battlizers other than Leo’s No mention of Scorpious No mention of Magna Defender nor Mike who were essential in Terra Venture's escape from the Lost Galaxy. No mention of Karone replacing the first Ranger to ever die, nor that dead Ranger’s resurrection No mention of Ryan being evil at first No mention of Alex, nor his death and resurrection No mention of Merrick being the evil Zen-Aku first No mention of Forever Red, Haley or the other DT Rangers said the video diary was about Tommy's life as a Power Ranger yet it neglects to mention the biggest battle he was ever in and orchestrated. He specifically states that he had no Ranger powers at the time in direct contradiction to Forever Red which proved he could still morph into Zeo Red Ranger.

12/19/11, 03:10 PM	#19
MattEmily Administrator Join Date: 01/12/11 Posts: 5,877	Re: The RPM /Samurai Team up You do have a point. Granted they make mistakes with names at times and remember Tommy is narrating the video diary and he does have a bad memory. Also the Sword of Darkness was destroyed by Jason but it's not the first time they've called it a Power Sword. I recall 1 other instance of them doing such a thing even when the writers should have known better. Yeah, the Green Ranger powers being temporary, I'll give you that but keep in mind it was only 1 episode and they had to condense it. Doesn't mean it's inconsistent. It just means they avoided some things. Granted the temporary Green Ranger powers is an inconsistent thing so I'll give you that one. Yes, the conquering of Eltar definitely meant the Turbo Rangers lost their powers but it's possible Tommy wasn't aware of the attack being at the same time as Divatox's attack on the Power Chamber. You have a point with Scorpius and the Magna Defender though. You do have a point with Karone as well as the death of Karone. You have a point with Merrick and Zen-Aku. Yes, it was a video about Tommy's life as a Power Ranger but that doesn't mean removing "Forever Red" is inconsistent. None of the teamups were mentioned. It's likely why they avoided the whole Kendrix/Karone stuff. They wanted to keep it as simple as possible. It doesn't mean not mentioning something is inconsistent. It just means they wanted to keep it as simple as possible. And yes, he said he had no powers at the "present time." That doesn't mean it's inconsistent. We don't even know if he still had his Zeo powers or not. Sure, he used them in "Forever Red" but that was "Forever Red."