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Nexerinfinity 12/06/14 09:42 PM

Could someone explain all the hate for PROO
 
I'm serious, I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I see all the hate for Overdrive and hear about how Jungle Fury was an improvement, but I just don't see it. It's nowhere near my favorite, but despite some half baked characters, OO had a pretty darn good supporting cast, it had a continuous storyline, even some occasional clever writing and sympathetic characters. On the other hand the only redeeming quality i can think of for Jungle Fury is RJ, whom despite my dislike of the season is one of my favorite characters in any season. (that last sentence seems grammatically incorrect to me, but I can't place it sorry.)

chrollo 12/06/14 09:45 PM

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Maybe people just don't like the acting in OO. I believe OO was a lot the casts first big role, where as Casey and RJ from JF had already acquired some experience in much bigger roles( A prime time soap for Casey, and RJ studied acting in college, and was regular guest star in What I like about you). You can write gold, but if the acting and directing isn't at that level it is still going to turn out bad.

In OO's defense the idea of having the red ranger actually being an android is an awesome idea imo. I think that idea for a character makes Operation Overdrive's red ranger one of the most human(no pun intended.... ok thats a lie but still true), and relatable in all of power rangers and sentai history. Of course they took far too long to bring it up, but what ever. I also can totally see how Operation Overdrive could be seen as the writing staff trying to figure out a darker take on power rangers that ultimately led to RPM.

Seems like maybe a lot of older fans were hoping that operation over drive would end up being a lot better than it ever could have been since it was the 15th season of the show, and especially since the season before was far from the best as well.

PRangerX 12/07/14 12:30 PM

Re: Could someone explain all the hate for PROO
 
I think people didnt like the characters and found them unlikeable and selfish. Most people were let down by the team up.

I personally didnt mind the season and thought it was ok. I think the finalie could have been a lot better. Also see why Once A Ranger had its critics. I still enjoyed it though. I liked OO's serial nature. The Mack as a robit stuff was interesting and original. As were the twist and turns it caused with his relationship to Hartford.

MattEmily 02/18/15 02:02 PM

Re: Could someone explain all the hate for PROO
 
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Originally Posted by Nexerinfinity (Post 48764)
I'm serious, I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I see all the hate for Overdrive and hear about how Jungle Fury was an improvement, but I just don't see it. It's nowhere near my favorite, but despite some half baked characters, OO had a pretty darn good supporting cast, it had a continuous storyline, even some occasional clever writing and sympathetic characters. On the other hand the only redeeming quality i can think of for Jungle Fury is RJ, whom despite my dislike of the season is one of my favorite characters in any season. (that last sentence seems grammatically incorrect to me, but I can't place it sorry.)

I think the one reason is because they just didn't like some of the characters Will and Dax especially and on top of that they were ready to quit too easily once their powers were stripped from them by Thrax.

Most people seem to hate Will in general not just for his character but also for the inhuman that played him.

Starlight Starbrite 02/19/15 05:41 PM

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OO just had very unlikeable characters. The villains were not very memorable anyway. The storys were not engaging. The finalie was rushed and unstatiafying. The Mack as a robot stuff had potential but they blew it in the end by making him human.

MattEmily 02/20/15 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Starlight Starbrite (Post 52246)
OO just had very unlikeable characters. The villains were not very memorable anyway. The storys were not engaging. The finalie was rushed and unstatiafying. The Mack as a robot stuff had potential but they blew it in the end by making him human.

that too in regards to the villains. Almost every season we've had cool villains. Rita, Goldar, Zedd, Master Vile, King Mondo, Gasket, Havoc, Dark Specter, Astronema, Scorpius, Trakeena, Deviot, Diabolico, Bansheera, Olympius, Ransik, Frax, Master Org, Mandilok, Vexacus, Mesogog, Zeltrax, Broodwing, The Master, Imperious, The Ten Terrors, Dai-Shi, The Overlords, Venjix, Serrator, Deker and Vrak but Overdrive just doesn't have any decent villains.

Phantom Stranger 02/20/15 04:23 PM

Re: Could someone explain all the hate for PROO
 
It was silly how easily Flurious was defeated when he had the crown. Why did they spend all season trying to obtain a power source that wasn't that great?

Dino Charger 02/21/15 12:47 PM

Re: Could someone explain all the hate for PROO
 
People just love to hate. I never understood why people read so much into a kids show. I love every season. I see nothing wrong with OO at all. I just watch Power Rangers and enjoy it.

MattEmily 02/21/15 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Stranger (Post 52290)
It was silly how easily Flurious was defeated when he had the crown. Why did they spend all season trying to obtain a power source that wasn't that great?

that it was but perhaps Flurious just didn't know how to use the crown's powers properly although he wasn't the only one that had a lame defeat during the history of the series.

Bansheera = wasn't even destroyed. She was knocked down into the Shadow World and Carter sealed the tomb.

Ransik = wasn't even defeated. He just surrendered.

PRangerX 02/22/15 01:20 PM

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I wouldn't call Bansheera's defeat lame. She got done in by her own army of demons. And got her just desserts for her lack of loyalty to her own troops. I'm pretty sure they killed her, given how visious the shadow world monsters were.

Superstatler 02/23/15 06:29 PM

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Bansheera was horrible. I hate sentai villains. She just looked tok generic. And had no.real personality besides being evil. Her final form was even more of a joke. She looked like an evil clown.

MattEmily 02/23/15 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PRangerX (Post 52345)
I wouldn't call Bansheera's defeat lame. She got done in by her own army of demons. And got her just desserts for her lack of loyalty to her own troops. I'm pretty sure they killed her, given how visious the shadow world monsters were.

destroyed or not by the demons in the Shadow World I'm not sure if that would even be for good or not considering the demons that were destroyed well their spirits had actually went there to reside.

Decepticon 02/25/15 04:17 PM

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I lot of people hated Will as a character and later Benta himself for acting like a tool. Especially when he took the banner from morphicon 1 that was supposed to be auctioned off for the Make A Wish Foundation.

PRangerX 02/25/15 04:18 PM

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I believe he later returned it but even so, it was still a stupid thing to do.

MattEmily 02/25/15 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PRangerX (Post 52470)
I believe he later returned it but even so, it was still a stupid thing to do.

no he didn't otherwise people still wouldn't be attacking him every chance that they get in regards to it. The Morphicon people have never acknowledged that he has returned it since he refuses to.

The Ghost Ranger 02/25/15 08:41 PM

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A lot of people seemed to dislike the Rangers as characters and the theme song. A rap song does not a power rangers theme make, you know?

As for the Rangers; Once they lost their powers, they instantly quit due to the back up team. A Ranger, be it MMPR, LG, TF, DT,SPD, etc, would NEVER, EVER give up in their fight against evil. Even without powers, a Ranger has a duty to protect the innocent and defend all that is good. I think thats the main reason the show gets hate.

PRangerX 02/25/15 08:43 PM

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Theme song was pretty forgetable. So glad power pop rap only lasted for a few years.

Delta Black 02/25/15 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ghost Ranger (Post 52507)
As for the Rangers; Once they lost their powers, they instantly quit due to the back up team. A Ranger, be it MMPR, LG, TF, DT,SPD, etc, would NEVER, EVER give up in their fight against evil. Even without powers, a Ranger has a duty to protect the innocent and defend all that is good. I think thats the main reason the show gets hate.

This was pretty damning for the OO Rangers. No one wanted to hear them whine about not having their powers. Especially when Mack begged so much to be a Ranger in episode 1. Why the heck did they all go back to their old lives during a crisis. The veteran Rangers came off as afterthoughts. Bridge as Red was silly. The returning Rangers didn't get enough lines. The explanation for the power returns were weak. Thrax's backstory made no sense.

Decepticon 02/25/15 08:52 PM

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Glad someone mentioned the theme song. It was so bad.

PRangerX 02/26/15 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MattEmily (Post 52414)
destroyed or not by the demons in the Shadow World I'm not sure if that would even be for good or not considering the demons that were destroyed well their spirits had actually went there to reside.

I think it was far more dramatic than Flurious' defeat. Also the underworld was sealed so to would be hard for her to come back if she could. "Time For Lightspeed" was a better finalie than the OO one.

Spike Hart 02/27/15 12:29 AM

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I didn't mind OO at all. It was kind of a fun adventure. Having different ctions of villains was cool..The Mack robot plot was interesting. There was plenty of action. The characters seemed pretty likeable to me..

Kelly Power 02/27/15 12:31 PM

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I liked the characters personally. Especially Mack, he was a well written character.

Gosei Gold 03/02/15 12:43 AM

Re: Could someone explain all the hate for PROO
 
Well I enjoyed Overdrive. I thought it was a fine season and was true to Power Rangers. I really liked Tyzonne as the Sixth Ranger. Mack and Dax we're both very likeable. I don't hate Will as much as everyone else. I separate what the actor did from the character. I do wish the villains were a little better.

Massive Ego 03/02/15 12:44 AM

Re: Could someone explain all the hate for PROO
 
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Originally Posted by PRangerX (Post 52345)
I wouldn't call Bansheera's defeat lame. She got done in by her own army of demons. And got her just desserts for her lack of loyalty to her own troops. I'm pretty sure they killed her, given how visious the shadow world monsters were.

It was a cop out ending to a lazy ass season. It was a disagrace we got this after the great Space Seasons.

Lightspeed Zeo 03/02/15 12:46 AM

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Bansheera's defeat was perfect and fit her character. She spent all that time screwing over her own people. So it made sense that her own monsters would tear her apart. Being torn apart in the underworld isn't a cop out to me.

I loved Lightspeed. I am glad most of the fandom likes it a lot more than they did when it was on. I like how they simplified things and just tried to have good pr episodes. The characters really grew on me. The rescue concept and made made powers were a nice change of pace. The villains were a bit generic but made up for it by how sinister they were.

Usagi Reborn 03/02/15 12:47 AM

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They should have hired a better actor for Vypra and made her lead villain. It would have made sense.

Kimmy Repulsa 03/02/15 12:49 AM

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OO sucked big time. The characters came off like spoiled brats. The villains were incompetent. The whole jewel plot turned out to be worthless in the end and just an excuse to keep the Rangers busy. The Mack has robot plot was stupid and came out of left field. Why did he get to save the day? Mack wasn't the type of Red Ranger to dominate everything until the last episode. Andrew Hartford just wasn't a likeable or believeable mentor. Really it was irresponsible of him to create a sentient robot.

Superhero Galaxy 03/02/15 10:30 AM

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OO was just boring. It was kinda just a meh season that year. The characters didn't really stand out. I didn't hate it but I can't say it was one of my favorites. I just didn't care that much.

Itzy Bitzy Carter 03/02/15 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PRangerX (Post 52345)
I wouldn't call Bansheera's defeat lame. She got done in by her own army of demons. And got her just desserts for her lack of loyalty to her own troops. I'm pretty sure they killed her, given how visious the shadow world monsters were.

Too bad she couldn't have taken Carter with her.

The Ghost Ranger 03/02/15 06:01 PM

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I will give OO credit where it is due; The arcing storyline of the crown was well done. I liked that it wasn't a 'single episode= one day' format

MattEmily 03/02/15 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PRangerX (Post 52548)
I think it was far more dramatic than Flurious' defeat. Also the underworld was sealed so to would be hard for her to come back if she could. "Time For Lightspeed" was a better finalie than the OO one.

certainly wasn't hard for Vypra to return in "Time For Lightspeed" and she was a weaker demon in comparison to Queen Bansheera.

MattEmily 03/02/15 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Itzy Bitzy Carter (Post 52822)
Too bad she couldn't have taken Carter with her.

ouch hey Itzy Bitzy Carter you got any ointment to go with that burn?

Doctor Dana 03/02/15 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ghost Ranger (Post 52849)
I will give OO credit where it is due; The arcing storyline of the crown was well done. I liked that it wasn't a 'single episode= one day' format

Yeah I liked that too. It felt like an old serial. OO was actually pretty fun. Was it the best ever? No. But I think it was enjoyable.

Lord Leo 03/02/15 08:24 PM

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Carter was still an improvement over Leo. Boy did he hog the spotlight. Carter wasn't nearly as bad. He let some of the other Rangers have focus. Plus you had Ryan who got a lot of screen time when he was around.

Khan's Wrath 03/02/15 08:36 PM

Re: Could someone explain all the hate for PROO
 
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Originally Posted by PRangerX (Post 52345)
I wouldn't call Bansheera's defeat lame. She got done in by her own army of demons. And got her just desserts for her lack of loyalty to her own troops. I'm pretty sure they killed her, given how viscous the shadow world monsters were.

I wanted to see her get destroyed in a big battle. The ending battle was a bit rushed. The episode itself was pretty good. I wasn't really a fan of Bansheera. She didn't really have a good look.

Gosei Great 03/04/15 08:01 PM

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Bansheera was kind of annoying. Dolibolico was the cooler villian.

OO was okay.I liked Mack and Ronny. The team up was pretty cool. It wasn't my favorite however.

Zordon's Legacy 03/08/15 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MattEmily (Post 52854)
certainly wasn't hard for Vypra to return in "Time For Lightspeed" and she was a weaker demon in comparison to Queen Bansheera.

I wish they would have explained at better. Since Vypra clearly got absorbed by Bansheera. How did she escape that fate and the shadow world. She was too easily defeated as well.

PRangerX 03/08/15 06:10 PM

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Vypra was a special case. She was never destoryed per say. But when Bansheera was mauled by her minions he must have got free. Some how she was able to escape the shadow world after that. We know Olympus was able to do it but the ckrcumstances seem different here. Although Vypra did get raised in a cementary like Olympius.

Chef Mia 03/09/15 07:47 PM

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I like OO. It was a fun adventure. The Rangers felt like people I would be comfortable being friends with. Having multiple villain fractions was a good idea. Tyzonne was a cool sixth. I like how he started off as a monster.

Nighlok Hunter 03/22/15 07:35 PM

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I loved OO. It was like a PR, version of Indiana Jones. I loved the mutiple villains factions angle. The Rangers were really cool. Despite Benta being a jerk, Will was my favorite Ranger. I thought he was the best character of the season. Nord was funny and Kelson was his usual awesome self. Moltor and Flurious had an interesting backstory. The twist and turns with Mack as a robot were really cool. As well as how it effected his relationship with Andrew. Dax was really funy and an uderdog to root for. The gem quest was real fun and made.the season a nice serial.


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