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No Green Spandex 03/08/18 07:28 PM

If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
I was wondering if the original actors wouldn't have walked off if Frank was written off for real? Not because they didn't like Jason. But without JDF they may have been able to give the originals raises.

Boston Ranger Guy 03/08/18 07:40 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
JDF wasn't going to be written out And Saban wasn't given them raises in either case. Especialky not based on a strike.

MattEmily 03/08/18 07:43 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
JDF's return had nothing to do with it regardless of whether he was there or not the whole issue behind Walter, Thuy and Austin leaving was because of pay and the show not being union. Saban wasn't going union at that point in time no matter what now they may have been backed into a corner if the whole hero cast decided to leave but that didn't end up happening.

Starlight Supreme 03/09/18 08:25 AM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
I can't see Saban going union or giving out raises just because JDF left the series.

Wesley Smallings 03/09/18 11:49 AM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
If for some reason Frank left the show, i could see Richie taking the White Ranger Role. The cast chsngr still would have happened like it did, since it had nothing to do with JDF.

Miki1988 03/09/18 01:56 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
That's correct. If the cast change would be somehow connected to JDF or JDF himself would be somehow responsible for the cast change, it would be an entire different situation. But it wasn't the case.

Anyway, I don't think JDF not returning would affect season 2 in a big way, but it would mean MMPR S3, Zeo, Turbo, FR, DinoThunder and Legendary Battle with no Tommy in them. No David, no brainwashed Zeo Ranger V fighting against his teammates, T.J. would probably have the torch passed to him by someone else and Eric would not have said that the Q-Rex would eat Dragonzord for lunch. Basically, for the writers and producers, it would mean doing every single storyline involving Tommy with an entirely different character or just doing entirely different storylines.

Jen's Revenge 03/09/18 05:38 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
Who knows if the show would have lasted if Tommy didn't return?

Vypra's Monster 03/09/18 07:32 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
I think we would have had a different White Rangsr but "The Power Transfer" would have happened the same way. Like Miki said, the rest of the eaely seasons would have been much different.

No Green Spandex 03/09/18 07:33 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
Yes they would have been much better without Tommy.

KimandTommy 03/09/18 07:35 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
It would have been horrible. It was bad enough we had the cast change. But it would have been unbearable without Tommy. Especially when Tommy and Kim were just getting going.

MattEmily 03/09/18 08:14 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by No Green Spandex (Post 75374)
Yes they would have been much better without Tommy.

I disagree there's no way the show would've lasted with David and A.J. as the only hero actors for even just a few episodes

Red With Evil 03/09/18 09:12 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
I think it would have hurt the show more.

MattEmily 03/09/18 10:04 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red With Evil (Post 75384)
I think it would have hurt the show more.

so do I since they were relying on Tommy, Kimberly and Billy to carry the show until the replacements for Zack, Trini and Jason came in

Miki1988 03/10/18 05:59 AM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
That's right. The three (ASJ, WEJ and TT) only appeared in the stock morphing sequence scenes, morphed ground fights, Zord/Megazord fights and their unmorphed versions either by the use of stock footage from previous episodes (mainly the Command Center scenes as Tommy is seen wearing both green and white-colored civilian clothes) and by stunt actor look-alikes who were filmed either from behind or filmed from a distance and voiced by a voice actor.

The show basically relied on AJJ, JDF and DY as they are the only three Rangers to appear for example, in any Command Center or Youth Center scene in their civilian forms. At least they had half the cast and were able to make the show go on until SC, JYB and KA stepped in as Rocky, Adam and Aisha. Without JDF, DY and AJJ would not have been enough to support the show's Jason's, Trini's and Zack's exit storyline. Which would have meant the end of Power Rangers. Can't do a show that required a cast of 6 at the time with only 2 main cast members present. At least 3 are needed. Plus I can't imagine Kimberly and Billy starting a romance or something, they are entirely different characters.

Red With Evil 03/10/18 08:01 AM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
I think Frank would have been brought back as Red. Unless he turned them down.

Green With Envy 03/10/18 08:03 AM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
It depends on why Frank would have left the show. But they already made the decision to keep him on full time by the time of his season 1 return,so I can't see why they would have wrote him out of the show in season 2?

Tommy Fan 03/10/18 08:05 AM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
I think some people are forgreting just how big Tommy was at the time. There is no say they weren't bringing him back as White Ranger. He would have had to go on strike with the others. But that happened right after his "return" . And we know JDF didn't go on strike.

Disney Ranger 03/10/18 08:11 AM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
Yes this was back when Saban Entertainment were producing the show as well as Disney. They wouldn't have wrote Tommy off a second time. He left in Turbo because JDF wanted to move on .

MattEmily 03/10/18 09:44 AM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Miki1988 (Post 75388)
That's right. The three (ASJ, WEJ and TT) only appeared in the stock morphing sequence scenes, morphed ground fights, Zord/Megazord fights and their unmorphed versions either by the use of stock footage from previous episodes (mainly the Command Center scenes as Tommy is seen wearing both green and white-colored civilian clothes) and by stunt actor look-alikes who were filmed either from behind or filmed from a distance and voiced by a voice actor.

basically what you said in your post is correct but it's doubtful their replacement voice actors were truly voice actors since at least 1 perhaps 2 of them were known to be crew members.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disney Ranger (Post 75392)
Yes this was back when Saban Entertainment were producing the show as well as Disney. They wouldn't have wrote Tommy off a second time. He left in Turbo because JDF wanted to move on .

I'm not even going to say how stupid that Disney comment is oh wait I already did by implying it.

Power Rangers Forever 03/10/18 12:02 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
Some of the Disney seasons were good. Buy the idea they were the only good seasons outside of MMPR, just doesn't jive with me

Tzachor Era 03/10/18 12:06 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
MMPR and Zeo weren't that great anyway.The show didn't become great until Tzachor became the shlwrunner during Turbo. Of course the greatness really started with Space. Disney was a big step down. Tzachor made things better with his return. But the show is missing something without him now. Hopefully Hasbro realizes this and pushes Saban to bring back Tzachor

White Spandex Rules 03/10/18 12:10 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
Its likely that whoever the new White Ranger was would have been used to carry the show with Amy , and David. Until the replacements were put into place. But it would have been a bummer without Tommy

KimandTommy 03/10/18 12:13 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
Which is why there was no way they would have been dumb enough to write Tommy out after "Green No More" . The show needed Tommy and Kim's romance to continue.

Sentai Is Forever 03/10/18 12:37 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
If they were smart they would have used Kibaranger's storyline and left American Burai out entirely. Burai certainly doesn't return as Kibaranger in Dairanger. So it was silly to bring back American Burai. But MMAS did a lot of silly things.

MattEmily 03/10/18 01:20 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentai Is Forever (Post 75406)
If they were smart they would have used Kibaranger's storyline and left American Burai out entirely. Burai certainly doesn't return as Kibaranger in Dairanger. So it was silly to bring back American Burai. But MMAS did a lot of silly things.

if anything is silly it's you people. Power Rangers is free to do what it wants to do so you just need to get over yourself and your obsession and stop with the bashing NOW. You'd be banned at most other places due to your negative personality.

Goldar's Revenge 03/12/18 04:03 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
White Ranger eas never going to be Kibaranger. Certainly not at the expense of Tommy.

Forever Jason 03/14/18 11:14 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
Jason would have become lewder again during Zeo.

No Green Spandex 03/17/18 08:20 AM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
I have said it before. Tommy's storyline as Green Ranger was great. "Green No More" was the perfect swan song. They not onky cheapened the episode with his return, but ruined the character. And I think really did some damage to the brand. They were already lucmy that they made up for cheaping his exit in "The Green Candle". But they tokd an even better story leading to GNM. The White Ranger stuff and beyond not so much.

Massive Ego 03/17/18 12:19 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jen's Revenge (Post 75372)
Who knows if the show would have lasted if Tommy didn't return?

I think it would have. Ratings went down in season 3 and didn't stabilize until Turbo. And that was with Tommy.

Miki1988 03/17/18 05:09 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
It would have been fine if they kept Tommy as a 6th Ranger even after the change from Green to White and made either Rocky, Kim or Billy the new team leader (following the cast change during S2). All Rangers would get equal attention and focus on the show that way. It would have all ended up in some episodes done better and maybe even some better storylines in my opinion. Plus it would have been a good way to keep JDF on the show as long as he'd be willing to (obviously) without affecting the quality of the series.

The way they forced Tommy made t look like he was the only main character on the series and the rest were just recurring.

Although it is the MMPR seasons that I have at the top of my "favorite seasons" list.

Everyone Loves Rocky 03/17/18 06:11 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
Rocky as team leader would have been great!

MMPR Forever 03/17/18 06:12 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
MMPR is the best! Only Ninja Steel has come close. But MMPR is still the greatest.

Adam White Tiger 03/17/18 06:13 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
I would have liked to have seen Adam be the new leader.

Lion Tamer Org 03/19/18 03:22 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
Richie and Curtis seem like good plan Bs.

MMPR Guru 03/21/18 12:23 PM

Re: If Jason Frank didn't return in season 2?
 
The fans would have been pissed and stopped watching the show. I know I would have.


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