The Sympathy For Adler
Its interesting how he did so many heinous things ,yet he is still written to be sympathetic in a lot of ways. Obviously not in a way to excuse his actions.
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I don't know. The fact he murdered Cole's parents for no real reason makes him pretty unsympathetic.
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The whole idea is how Adler's poor choices have ruined his life and destroyed him. He became a shell of his former self who only had his hatred for Cole left. He was a very tragic character. Even if his choices brought it on himself.
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Its easy to call someone a monster. But to see villians are flawed humans makes it scarier. Since it shows how far regular people can fall if they make bad decisions. It makes for a better antagonist as well.
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Well I don't feel sorry for him at all. He was a murdere who chose to be evil. He deserved what was coming to him.
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I think Adler's back story was way too dark for a kids show. Its too bad the censors let it go.
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Its pretty powerful when Cole refuses to stoop to his level and kill him. He even feels sorry for him despite everything Adler took from Cole.
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Great villians do have a little bit of sympathy for them. He was a good contrast to Cole. Who didn't give into vengeance or hate. Despite having a better reason for it than Adler did forgetting to his parents.
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Master Org was really a multi-layer character. And is even more interesting from Adler's perspective. He is the finest villian the show has ever had in terms of writing.
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I think he was too serious. We needed Master Org to be a villain that cracked jokes and had all kinds of witty one liners.
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I think he was too scary for kids. So he should have been toned down. Adler was just too dark for a children's series. They were smart to make Lothor funny the next season. Its too bad they went more serious again with Mesogog. But he wasn't as scary as Master Org at least.
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Master Org was a good serious villian. I wouldn't want him making one liners or doing comedy. It would ruin the character and his backstory.
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Yes it was so stupid when Lothor was treated like a clown and his backstory as Kiya,showed him to be serious. Plus with him killing the Thunder's parents it just didn't make sense.
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The sympathy you have for him for letting himself turn into a monster for jealousy, makes him a better villian.
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Why in the world would why anyone want to to make a great villian like Master Org into a clown like Lothor?
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I don't know I think the real tragedy was the fact Cole never got to knew his parents.
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Adler dies rather pathetically in "Masters Last Stand". After just losing to Cole and getting mercy from the man whose parents he had killed. Its hard not to feel sympathy for Adler. those respects. It doesn't mean that he didn't deserve his fate or bought it on himself.
Its interesting because even when the true Master Org returns , he seems to retain Adler's perspective. |
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I always thought it was wierd that there was that scene where Shayla tried to convince Master Org to stop like he was stoll Adler. I know it's easy to see where the Rangers still thought he was Adler. But Master Org answers the questions like a guilt ridden Adler who feels there is no redemption. Rather than being the purely evil Mastsr Org.
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I never believed that Adler died in " Masters Last Stand". I think he was Adler the whole time after that. He just had become a real Org and truly deserved the title Mastsr Org. The original Master Org was killed by Merrick.
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Yes Adler truely became an evil monster and was beyond redemption. He couldn't fool anyone like Kat or Karone. He was evil to the core and outwordly. The Wild Force team had no choice but to fknksh him off for good.
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It makes too much sense for Master Org to be possessing Adler 's dead body after "Master's". What would be the point of him fake dying and just coming back as Master Org? Plus we only see Org's posssess inanimate things. Jindrax knows Adler wasn't the real Master Org. But he refers to him as the real one they were waiting for all those years.
its likely Org was latent in Adler all that time and let him have access to his powers until the time was right to let him die. And in the process really returned. Its just Master Org still retained Adler's memories and feelings after his return. |
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Agreed. The Scene with Shayla does fly in the face of the Adler death in "Last Stand" but the idea the real master just has his memories explains that away. It still feels more natural that the Master Org we see in the end has now possessed Adler's body. After the first had f showing us Adler's possessing Org's powers before his death.
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I'm not sure how I felt since on one hand I get that he was in love with Cole's mom, and wanted to be famous but things didn't work out.
But at the same time he seemed like even before he became Master Org he was blaming Cole's parents for why his life sucked instead of himself. |
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He clearly showed signs of being psychotic before he even ate the seeds of Master Org.
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He really didn't have a bad life. And the Evans could have remained good friends and colleagues. He also had a chance to make a tremendous discovery with Animarium. And whose to say he wouldn't have found someone else that truely loved him back? He through his life away over petty jealousy. And feelings of betrayal that wasn't really there. Its likely Mrs. Evans never even knew he was attracted to her like that. Thats where the tragedy of his situation comes in. But it doesn't mean he didn't cause it all himself.
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I would have loved it if Master Org was funny and made one liners. Its why I love Lothor so much.
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Tommy never got to know his real Parents since he was adapted We never found out what happened with Mrs. Cranston so it's possible she died when Billy was really young Justin's Mom possibly passed away Andros never knew what happened to his Cole's as we know were murdered Hunter and Blake's Parents were murdered I don't recall if they were birth or adoptive Trent's Dad presumably died in a cave-in Syd only ever mentioned her Mom. Sky's Dad had been murdered. Nick never knew what happened to his but discovered it. Jayden's Dad died more than likely Tyler's Dad went missing for awhile as did Brody's Same with the Parents that Amelia had Ravi never mentioned his Dad neither did Zoey while Devon never mentioned a Mom Quote:
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Him being sympathetic doesn't make him right. He can have some sympathy to him and still be totally wrong in his actions. Adler wanted to kill Richard when he hate the seeds. The seeds made him even worse...To where he wanted to kill the whole family. All terrible intentiona but even Cole feels sorry for Adler in the end.
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I didn't see much of Wild Force but from what I know and have seen...Adler seems like a pretty bland villian.
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What makes Adler's story works is that its a story about a very flawed human being that is believable...Well until he eats magic seeds that turn him into the leader of evil spirits.
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