Why didn't Disney hire Saban?

[Saban Fan]

They should have hired him to continue to run Power Rangers after the buyout.

[Goldar's Revenge]

Saban wasn't a production guy. And he had just sold the series. They did keep the majority of MMPR Productions for a year. But they weren't looking to buy pr in the first place. Doug and Ann came to them after they cancelled the series.

[Massive Ego]

No matter how hard we try to tell him , he still thinks Saban is some kind of writer and producer.

[MattEmily]

Saban wasn't a production guy. And he had just sold the series. They did keep the majority of MMPR Productions for a year. But they weren't looking to buy pr in the first place. Doug and Ann came to them after they cancelled the series.

it was just Doug who came to Disney. Ann had nothing to do with it as far as I recall

No matter how hard we try to tell him , he still thinks Saban is some kind of writer and producer.

that's because he's living in a fantasy world where he thinks Haim is just like any TV Executive Producer.

[MattEmily]

a lot of other Executive Producers actively engage in the production of their show including being on set as much as possible but this wasn't the case with Haim Saban.

Doug Sloan and Ann did it with Ninja Storm and Dino Thunder even to the point of taking the drastic step of moving to New Zealand to do the work.

Chip has also been in New Zealand for Dino Charge and more than likely Ninja Steel. I don't know if he went to the drastic step that Doug and Ann did of actually moving there even on a temporary basis but it wouldn't surprise me.

Also these following shows aren't related to Power Rangers but Jeff Franklin of Full House and Fuller House was also actively engage in both shows' productions even to the point of regularly being on the set.

Alfred Gough was also involved with Smallville he was heavily involved with it in the beginning but not to the point Doug, Ann, Chip and Jeff would've been. He was more like in the middle since he had hired other people to deal with the actual writing of the episodes.

[PRangerX]

Usually the main exec producer is the showrunner in TV. But there are exceptions....Especially for Turbo part 2-WF. Jonathon was technically the producer but became Showrunner mid Turbo. Levy was Executive Producer with Saban. But he only was showrunner from MMPR to Turbo Par 1. In both cases there was another interesting wrinkle. Levy and Tzachor were both directors and not writers. Usually a showrunner has more of a writing background. But both had more influence creatively than Saban. We know Tzachor had a lot of influence. But this senario did make story editors like Sloan, Lynn, Marachand, and Bhaumik even more important

During the Disney era they had more conventional showrunners. Sloan and Kalish were both from writing backgrounds and credited as Execs. As were Eddie and Judd. The new Saban era went back to Tzachor as a director showrunner but credited as Executive this time. Now that Lynn has joined its back to Disney era style.

[Sailor Saban]

Saban was a lot more involved than you guys think. Only Saban Fan and I seem to understand this.

[Inner Senshi]

Its all depends on your opinion.

[Goldar's Revenge]

Not necessarily. Opinions are fine and should be respected. But there is such a thing as an informed opinion. And in this case its mostly fact. Especially the statement of Saban not being that involved creatively.

Two biggest creative influences Saban had with this show were deciding to license Super Sentai Footage ckmbine it with American Civilian Scenes to make Power Rangers...And the fact he oversaw things a bit more in season 1, mainly reviewing scripts and stuff. But beyond that he was very much just the business guy. Saban was more of a programming guy in the Saban Entertainment era. Now he is mainly an owner or the brand.

[Massive Ego]

I can respect people's opinions and the way they interpret things. But it doesn't mean I have to say they are right.

[Superstatler]

Who says Saban ecen wanted the job? He just sold his whole company at that point.

[Jedi Ranger]

Right, George Lucas didn't sell Star Wars so he could work for Disney. And they didn't hire him to run the brand.

[MattEmily]

Usually the main exec producer is the showrunner in TV. But there are exceptions....Especially for Turbo part 2-WF. Jonathon was technically the producer but became Showrunner mid Turbo. Levy was Executive Producer with Saban. But he only was showrunner from MMPR to Turbo Par 1. In both cases there was another interesting wrinkle. Levy and Tzachor were both directors and not writers. Usually a showrunner has more of a writing background. But both had more influence creatively than Saban. We know Tzachor had a lot of influence. But this senario did make story editors like Sloan, Lynn, Marachand, and Bhaumik even more important

During the Disney era they had more conventional showrunners. Sloan and Kalish were both from writing backgrounds and credited as Execs. As were Eddie and Judd. The new Saban era went back to Tzachor as a director showrunner but credited as Executive this time. Now that Lynn has joined its back to Disney era style.

yup exactly.

Saban was a lot more involved than you guys think. Only Saban Fan and I seem to understand this.

no he wasn't. That's just in yours and Saban Fan's fantasy world. Tell me something if you seriously think he was that involved. How come he had no freaking clue who Karan Ashley (Aisha) was when they were doing something for the first movie? If he was involved as you 2 claimed then he would've known who she was but he didn't.

Not necessarily. Opinions are fine and should be respected. But there is such a thing as an informed opinion. And in this case its mostly fact. Especially the statement of Saban not being that involved creatively.

Two biggest creative influences Saban had with this show were deciding to license Super Sentai Footage ckmbine it with American Civilian Scenes to make Power Rangers...And the fact he oversaw things a bit more in season 1, mainly reviewing scripts and stuff. But beyond that he was very much just the business guy. Saban was more of a programming guy in the Saban Entertainment era. Now he is mainly an owner or the brand.

Not quite "mostly fact" it is fact there's nothing "mostly" about it in fact it's 100% fact but yes that's pretty much correct although we don't know if he was reviewing things back in the first season he didn't even have a clue how to writer the show how he knew was that he wanted to bring the show over but replace the Japanese cast of Rangers and allies with an American crew and ADR the rest but he wasn't sure how to do it since he's not a writer or a Director that's why he entrusted things to Tony Oliver to figure out a plan on how to map the system out.

[Forever Lame]

I can respect people's opinions and the way they interpret things. But it doesn't mean I have to say they are right.

Especially if they praise "Forever Red".

[Racecar Ronny]

They kept the same production team for a year before making changes. And even then hired old crewmembers to run the thing until they left.

[KimandTommy]

Saban should have been more involved after season 1. So the quality of the show didn't dip. Maybe Tommy and Kim would have stayed together. But it depends on Saban's opinions.

[No Green Spandex]

You hire the old owner to own the show for you?

[Chaos Ranger]

Saban was never going to run production of the show. And doesn't now. Back then he was getting out of children's television anyway.

[Sentai Envy]

To Denounce the evils of America Sentai

To extend her reach to the html codes around

Sentai Snobs move at the speed of Goggle Fiber

Original Footage, thats not right!

Disney shouldn't have laid Tzachor off. He at least understood how to adapr Super sentai closely. Too bad misguided writers like Judd Lynn and Amit Bhaumik got in his way.

[MattEmily]

Saban should have been more involved after season 1. So the quality of the show didn't dip. Maybe Tommy and Kim would have stayed together. But it depends on Saban's opinions.

Tommy and Kimberly wouldn't have stayed together for 1 simple fact - Amy Jo would still be asking to leave the show since she didn't want to be on the show anymore. Why can't you a Kimberly worshipper understand that? if you're as much in love with her as you claim to be then you would respect what happened instead of hating on what happened but clearly you can't respect people or characters so for someone who claims that we're Kimberly haters it's actually YOU who is the Kimberly hater since you actually disrespect her. Someone who likes Kimberly wouldn't be attacking Kimberly as much as you do.

[KimandTommy]

I love kimberly! You guys are the haters!

[MattEmily]

I love kimberly! You guys are the haters!

LOL no you don't otherwise you wouldn't be calling her naive for trusting Kat. That's called disrespect. I don't hate Kimberly at all in fact the only Rangers who I truly hate are Justin and Will.

Kimberly isn't my favorite Pink Ranger but she is I would say in the top 6. There are other Pink Rangers lower than her notably Mia.

[White Spandex Rules]

That was never going to happen.

[A Gia To Remember]

I don't think Saban was a writer.

[Bandora's Ghost]

This was never happening

[Mitchell's Navy]

Disney hired Sloan , so he didn't need to.

[Doomsday]

Why would they want to hire Saban? And why would he want to work for them?

[Space Force]

If Saban was so good then why do his newer seasons all suck? Disney didn't do a great job either though.

[Turbo Black]

Didn't Disney not even want Power Rangers?

[MattEmily]

Didn't Disney not even want Power Rangers?

that's correct that's why Wild Force was meant to be the end of the series so MMPR Productions was disbanded and all of the crew members had been let go but Doug had went to his Bosses and persuaded them to bring it back by suggesting that they could save on costs on filming it in New Zealand which is how that happened.

[Bandora's Ghost]

They just kept it going for a year and quietly canceled it to save money. Doug and Ann convinced Disney to keep the show going by moving to New Zealand, to save on production costs.

[Kimmy Repulsa]

I think people like Sloan and Lynn were more influential than Saban.

[Byron Stinger]

Saban just believed in the concept if combining Super Sentai footage with American Civilian scenes. He is proud of the brand, based on how he went to the trouble to buy it back. But he isn't a creative guru.

[Captain Codfish]

The reality is there are many names that have shepherded the series creatively. Saban is not really one of them. But he gets credit for coming up with the idea of the show and funding it. Not to mention funding a new company to buy it back once Disney cancellee the series.

[Diabolico Rising]

I get the impression that Saban regretted not making PR excluded from the Saban Entertainment sale. Given he would have sold everything else, I think PR would have closed down for awhile after one more year of Wild Force. There would have been a rival though.

[Jen's Revenge]

I do wonder if Time Force would have been it for awhile. Given the sale happened during post production. Would Wild Force have just remained on Fox all year? Or would it have been scrapped entirely?

[Power Sentai]

It all depends if Fox Kids wanted the whole season. We know Wild Force finished up on ABC Kids and Fox Kids itself closed down soon after perhaps Saban would have sold WF's second half to Fox Box and possibly future seasons.

[Sentai Is Forever]

Wild Force would have finished on Fox Box. American Sentai would then be replaced by dubbed Super Sentai. Fox Box did buy a dubbed version of Ultraman Tiga.

[Sentai Mighty]

Shut up traitor! We don't need you're bs. You ruined the Sentai Snobs!

[PRangerX]

Shut up traitor! We don't need you're bs. You ruined the Sentai Snobs!

Enjoy your seven day vacation from the board for flaming.

I don't mind if people want to compare PR and Sentai in gen discussion. But save the drama for the Sentai Snob forum.

[MattEmily]

I get the impression that Saban regretted not making PR excluded from the Saban Entertainment sale. Given he would have sold everything else, I think PR would have closed down for awhile after one more year of Wild Force. There would have been a rival though.

yea Haim went on record as saying he regretted not excluding it from the deal but it was the Fox Family Worldwide deal it wasn't just a Saban Entertainment sale since Saban Entertainment was just mostly full of a library of shows but nothing else so Disney wouldn't have gotten Fox Family from it if it was just Saban Entertainment.

I do wonder if Time Force would have been it for awhile. Given the sale happened during post production. Would Wild Force have just remained on Fox all year? Or would it have been scrapped entirely?

yes Wild Force would've still happened since contracts with actors would've been in place. They would've gotten into big trouble with SAG if they broke the contract but as for whether it would've remained on Fox I think it would've since it was still part of the contract.

It all depends if Fox Kids wanted the whole season. We know Wild Force finished up on ABC Kids and Fox Kids itself closed down soon after perhaps Saban would have sold WF's second half to Fox Box and possibly future seasons.

that's a good point

Wild Force would have finished on Fox Box. American Sentai would then be replaced by dubbed Super Sentai. Fox Box did buy a dubbed version of Ultraman Tiga.

while you're probably right about Wild Force you're not right about the rest of it except for either Fox Box or 4Kids doing the Ultraman thing. That worked for them at the time but Sentai isn't a fit for that not to mention Haim Saban's company who owns the rights to Sentai in non-Asian countries would NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER allow such a thing.

[Dark Specter's Revenge]

I think a break and a relaunch would have helped the franchise at the time. Just like I think Saban Brands made a mistake when they recently relaunched after only year break.

[Where's Waldo]

I don't see any scenario where the ops suggestion would have happened.

[Princess Org]

I think it turnef out for the best. Especially since Saban bought PR with his new company when Disney was done with PR.

[Zeltrax Reborn]

Disney didn't even really hire MMPR Productions. They only started a new because of Sloan and Ann's pitch for a cheaper production budget in NZ.

[Kira Fan]

Saban was probably done wanting to work on pr at that time.

[Karone Zhane]

Sorry but the idea of Saban going to work for Disney just isn't realistic

[Cosmic Ranger]

There was no interest in either party working together.